It is rare that a national newspaper editorial exposes its prejudices so clearly. And, tempting though it is to just smile grimly and let it pass, here goes (again).
Here is how the concluding judgements of Friday's Independent editorial on the Archbishop of Canterbury's involvement in politics went:
While anxiety over child poverty is admirable, public pronouncements on purely political issues in which his organisation has no direct involvement are as unconstructive as they are inappropriate. The question is neither Archbishop Welby’s motivations nor his capabilities; as a former oil executive and a member of the mettlesome Commission on Banking Standards, he has both the background and the acuity to make an informed contribution. The question is whether he should do so.
For The Independent, even when we agree with him, the answer must be no. For all his fine qualities – many of which were on display in yesterday’s gracious, candid response to the Wonga embarrassment – Archbishop Welby is still the unelected leader of a minority institution which enjoys disproportionate influence on the basis of history alone. His efforts to reclaim the initiative and make the Church relevant again are understandable. But they are also erroneous.
This is no swipe at religion, but such matters are a private affair, and spiritual leaders – for all the authority they may have among their own – have no business in mainstream politics. That bishops still sit in the House of Lords is an anachronism that makes a mockery of British democracy. If Archbishop Welby wishes the Church of England to support credit unions, it is his prerogative to act accordingly, but there his legitimacy ends.
The italics are mine. The patronising assumptions about private-public opinions are those of the anonymous author.
First, unlike newspaper editorial writers, the church does have a 'direct involvement' in the issues we bang on about – which is why we bang on about them. We have clergy and people in every community of the country and our intelligence about 'real lives' and the impact of policy on them is rooted and informed. We don't just stand at a distance and pontificate like… er… editorial writers? Since when was child poverty or welfare reform purely a 'political' issue and not a 'human' or 'social' issue? And who else should, on this basis, be kept muted: community leaders, journalists, rabbis, sportsmen, newspaper editors?
Secondly, when I last looked, all the above were unelected. Or is the Independent really suggesting that only elected politicians should have a voice in society and how it is run? Is it really suggesting that there is some neutral ground for a world view that is shared by non-religionists, but not by those who start from a religious world view? How did such nonsense get through the editorial desk? Oh, I see…
Thirdly, yes it is a swipe at religion. Religion is being singled out for silence. And on what basis? That it is a 'private affair'. It beggars belief that this old chestnut still pops up in rational minds. The division into 'private' and 'public' is artificial. On what basis is a politicians dogma to be accepted as relevant, but an Archbishop's as mere opinion? And, even if this were to be seen as remotely valid, why is one opinion to be privileged above another?
The final swipe at the church's involvement in the legislature exposes the real point of the piece – which is not about the validity of the Archbishop of Canterbury's role in using his office to speak about social ills, but about the matter of disestablishment. Well, write a leader comment about that, then, but don't mix it up with nonsense about private opinion, elected voices and ignorance about the church's engagement in the real world of our local communities.
(And I like the Independent. I thought it was a bit brighter than this.)
July 29, 2013 at 7:47 am
Hardly surprising that militant atheism has champions on the staff of a newspaper owned by a Russian oligarch. Any more than those who post on their online blogs imagine some malign bias in the deletion of their comments.
The former is entirely consistent with what you’d expect. Some such had a pop at my elder daughter when she “came out” as a Christian on Facebook, although she’d known them for years.
The latter is pretty improbable because such moderation would cost more money than just deleting when someone objects and the Indie isn’t rich.
The Independent is another anti-Labour paper with occasional comment pieces of interest IMO. I expect its editorial line is in effect determined by it’s owner’s instructions and the selection of its editor.
As once “The Thunderer” trumpeted Tory church values, we should expect the Indie and the Guardian to weasel those of militant atheism writ small. The spirit of the late Linda Smith – President of the Humanist Society – will not inspire them I fear.
July 29, 2013 at 8:46 am
Excellent piece, Nick. Thank you.
July 29, 2013 at 8:50 am
So for clarity, faith is OK as long as it makes no meaningful, practical or useful difference to people’s lives. Well, yes, I suppose that would make it easier to finish faith…
July 29, 2013 at 9:20 am
Very well said Nick – how anyone can think that the church has no understanding of society’s problems (and poverty in particular) or that it has no right to become publicly involved in the debate beggars belief…
July 29, 2013 at 9:48 am
If the media are to be believed, the Church of England spends most of its time debating sex. And though the media pundits may disagree with some of the views expressed, they don’t seem to object to the issues being debated at all.
You may have differing views on whether not having female bishops is a grave injustice to the female sex that hast to be rectified at all costs, though the proportion of the female population with a yen to become Church of England bishops must be pretty low. But loansharks affect a much wider range of people. The Archbishop of Canterbury can witter on all he likes about all sorts of issues, as long as they don’t matter to most people. But if he touches on something that really does affect the lives of many people, the scandal is there at once.
Credit unions are a form of civil-society socialism, and the objection is actually an objection to civil society. Who elected the bosses of Wonga anyway?
July 29, 2013 at 10:15 am
I despair of new media because it’s so short sighted. If they’ve got an agenda to abolish religion – than be open about so that we can oppose it openly. But resorting to snide comments about whether or not someone with a faith view should remain silent because their views are just private opinion is overstepping the mark.
The Arch Bishop was elected, by the College of Canon’s of Canterbury Cathedral and his appointment was endorsed by by the Political establishment and the Head of State and Supreme Governor of the Church of England, HM The Queen. He has as much right to voice his opinion as the editors and correspondents of the news media and he speaks for a large proportion of the wider population, particularly those disenfranchised by the policies of this and previous governments.
Just today we learn that taking a case an industrial tribunal will now cost upwards of £1200. They might as well abolish the whole shebang altogether as it will now become another institution for the elite and well heeled who have a grievance about not being rich enough.
If the independent doesn’t like his voicing his views, than they can always ignore them as they do for much of the good news coming from faith groups, not just the CofE.
July 29, 2013 at 11:17 am
The next day, the Sunday version of the Independent published this article by a former deputy editor, Ian Birrell, which takes a slightly different line
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/politics-and-religion-do-mix-well-after-all-8734969.html
July 29, 2013 at 12:01 pm
I’d be more patient with the ‘keep your dogma out of policy’ rhetoric if it were used equally against economists….
July 29, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Thanks, Nick for nailing this nonsense. Any public body has a corporate existence in the public square, and a right to express its views. People can then make of them what they will, but for the Indy to dismiss the right of free speech in this way is unimpressive
July 29, 2013 at 1:02 pm
I, too, like The Independent and was disappointed when it stopped selling in Ireland (both NI and RoI), apparently due to commercial unviability. The i is on sale here, which is a brave attempt to mix quality and popularity, although its editorials are so ‘chatty’ they are to be avoided. However, The Independent’s Welby editorial just goes to show how irked thoroughgoing secularists can be when religion gets some street credibility. One would indeed expect rather more subtlety, and less grumpiness, among elite commentators.
July 29, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I wrote my reply to ‘the leader’ in ‘The Independent’ before reading your response and included some comments that, as a Bishop, you might refrain from. Why is it that it is the Liberal press has become, at one and the same time, so anti-faith, yet so sanctimonious?
July 29, 2013 at 4:00 pm
…It really is hard to believe that in the 21st century that ‘The Independent’ hasn’t fully grasped the basics, namely that we really do live/exist as a democratic nation!
Meanwhile, just for the record, I have direct contact with two thriving small businesses…I say thriving, because throughout this last recessionary period they would most definitely have had to cease trading, but for the financial assistance received from that unlikely source, Wonga!
It is a strange world…but nevertheless, let us hope that we assiduously protect our democracy in every sense of the written and spoken word.
July 29, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Thank you Nick–well put. Did you see my comment on the positive significance of the issue? http://www.psephizo.com/life-ministry/welby-and-wonga/
July 29, 2013 at 4:14 pm
There’s no-one so unintentionally but viciously intolerant as a liberal commentator in full flow …
July 29, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Since when was the editor of The Independent elected by anyone?
And if it comes to representativeness, what business does the head of a newspaper with a tiny circulation (73,060 June 2013 – that’s right, seventy-three thousand) have telling the head of the Church of England (usual weekly attendance 1,100,000 – that’s right – one million, one hundred thousand) what to do?
The Independent’s circulation is one-fifth of what it was a decade’s ago. Church of England attendance has held up remarkably well by comparison.
July 29, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Well said! Liberals have become the new fascists.
July 29, 2013 at 7:34 pm
8 letters in today’s ‘Guardian’ under heading ‘Church turns the tables on payday lenders.’
The last one is short and to the point.
“This archbishop is in danger of giving the church a good name.”
Marie Johnstone
July 29, 2013 at 10:08 pm
well said Nick – would like to see this in letter form to the said newspaper. I was thinking with some sadness and frustration that there was a very nasty note of ‘HA – GOT YOU’ when the information about the past and indirect investment in Wonga came out, and how quickly the media and some section of the public rounded on the Archbishop. Ill informed defence of payday lenders by individuals who either don’t know or don’t care about the serious problems they cause seemed to be given far more weight than the considerable body of evidence amassed on this subject – in fact they barely referred to it. Sad.
July 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm
In the light of Ken’s comment…should we all be writing to the Indy?
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July 30, 2013 at 12:40 pm
‘unelected leader of a minority institution which enjoys disproportionate influence’ ermm, are we talking about Newspapers here? Surely it is rather hypocritical considering the fact that newspapers rarely report the news without placing their own opinions and spin onto things. The media has groundbreaking influence on opinion and policy – it can manipulate the public like nothing else – politicians can say what they want, but its the way the media report it that influences us – people who are far less educated/qualified, are a smaller minority and have far less right to tell us what to believe. We have unelected, biased individuals spoon feeding us what we should believe in the ruse of reporting facts – if anyone has too much of a say in politics its the media.
July 30, 2013 at 12:41 pm
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July 30, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I remember seeing a First World War cartoon caption which may be suitable for a journalist who doesn’t like living in a country with an established church whose leaders have a right to speak out whether the BBC, the government,the opposition,the banks,the newspapers, youtube viewers or anybody else like it or not – ‘If ya knows of a better ‘ole, go to it.’
July 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm
It seems that the article was not well thought through. The writers assumed that people of faith shouldn’t exercise their citizenship rights in regards to political invovement. Or that citizenship and its rights apply only to those who’s values have no faith connections… But who are they to limit or redefine citizenship? They are probably exercising their “freedom of speach,” but it will be faith-people’s responsibility if they succumb to this demise by only responding with words and no actions…
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The real irony of this is that one of the Independent’s founders and still a frequent contributor is Andreas Whittham-smith; and what is he doing now? Chairing the Assets Committee of the Church Commissioners!
July 30, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Although it was once my political ‘colour’ in the days of Andreas W-S, I stopped buying The Independent years ago when it started to publish poorly researched material often poorly written. What is the nature of The Independent’s authority to speak forth? Theirs is certainly not democratic; but, neither was Wilberforce’s until later in the day, nor Equiano’s nor Clarkson’s, whom we thankfully remember today!
July 31, 2013 at 8:51 am
The mission of the church is, or should be, saving souls. Anything else is an unhelpful distraction, unless it contributes to that mission.
July 31, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Like this, I thought the Archbish was to be congratulated. As for the fact the church commissioners invest in W***ga, I might someone on the board many years ago and could not across to him the importance of ethical investments.
August 2, 2013 at 8:35 am
Thankfully the worst The Independent’s anonymous editorial commentator is able to do is to offer such intellectually impoverished rubbish (“great is Artemis of the Ephesians!”) unless he/she would like to back it up with something a little more forceful. And even the discovery of indirect investment in Wonga simply highlights the whole matter of indirect investment & the power of fund managers.
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August 4, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Hear, hear. We obviously think similarly about this Nick. Check out Douglas Murray’s article here: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8839081/call-off-the-faith-wars/
My response should come up as the first of the comments.
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