Good grief. The debate about foodbanks continues in the UK media, sometimes getting distracted by stuff that misses the point.
OK, the Daily Mail has no alternative but to ridicule the bishops and bang its particular drum. The Times goes a bit weird by suggesting that the bishops are out of touch with their congregations who, according to a poll, are right behind the need for benefits reform. This raises two points: (a) our congregations are also pretty solidly behind reform of banking and tax fraud by the rich, but that is being missed; (b) bishops aren't there to parrot the views of parishioners, but to tell the truth regardless. There is plenty of debate within the church about such matters, but the bishops are not simply the mouthpiece of particular constituencies.
This has always been the vocation of church leaders. As the Germans found out in the 1930s and '40s, church leaders are there to describe reality and not to collude in whatever view the masses are led to believe.
But, this week's golden exclamation mark must go, once again, to the Independent. Are they employing five year olds to write their leader editorials? I had a go at a silly piece some months ago, and here they are again with the same old brain-dead nonsense. To think this stuff is crass, but to publish it as intellectually credible is unbelievable. I obviously wasted my words last time.
Try this from today's anonymous editorial:
If the facts are undeniable, though, the right of the Church to meddle in politics is absolutely not. Not only do religious leaders come by their public podia by dint of a historical influence at odds with modern secular democracy, but their claims of moral authority are also hardly as absolute as they seem. It is difficult for an archbishop’s remonstrances on the subject of the poor and hungry to be anything but the final moral word, and yet they are subject to the same limitations as any other political perspective… But anecdotal evidence metamorphosed into an unassailable moral position via an institution that no longer represents more than a tiny fraction of the population does more harm than good. David Cameron’s assessment is back to front. The bishops’ facts are fine. Their belief in a divine right to be heard is not.
Where to start?
1. Who does have a right to 'meddle in politics'? Unelected newspaper editors? Everyone but bishops? Muslims? Atheists? Every citizen has a right and a duty to meddle in politics. Can the Independent please expose and explain the assumptions (prejudices?) that underlie this repeated nonsense? Who else should be removed from public democratic debate?
2. Bishops do not come by their public podia by dint of historical influence. If the writer wants to bang on about bishops in the House of Lords, then let him/her say so and we can have that debate. But, this latest bash isn't about that and didn't emanate from bishops in Parliament. Does the editor really believe that bishops should simply keep quiet about anything in the public square? What does he/she think a bishop is? And, again, who else should be kept quiet in the public democratic debate? Or does 'secular democracy' really mean that only people with a non-religious world view should be privileged with access to that public square? And who said?
3. Can the writer show us where the bishops made any claim to 'absolute moral authority'? They told a story and argued a case. By all means, knock it down, if it not true or if the story is selective. But, where is the claim to absolute moral authority? This, again, simply amplifies the unarticulated and uncritical prejudice of the writer. A five year old would be embarrassed to still be trotting out this stuff.
4. 'Unassailable moral position'? Which century is the writer living in here?
5. Doesn't a democracy assume that even the tiniest group with the most hesitant voice has a right to be heard, a right to be involved and a right to be thought potentially right? Anyway, bishops do not represent a constituency as an MP represents his or hers. The independent might not like this – and obviously doesn't – but it will have to find a better intellectual ground for its prejudice than this spurious ex cathedra put down.
6. What 'more harm than good' does the writer actually think has happened here? Again, unexplained, unarticulated and worthy of an unelected, morally superior elite who can pass judgement without accountability.
7. When did the bishops assume a 'divine right to be heard'? This is a joke, right? Just journalese gone a bit too far? Surely?
Clearly, more dangerous than bishops telling a story and arguing a case in the public square – on the basis that they can articulate their case effectively (sometimes…) – is a 'neutral' newspaper arrogating to itself everything it will deny of citizens-with-a-religious-world-view. But, really, this is just a joke. The Independent should do better than this. It could start by owning up to its prejudices, subjecting them to informed debate, and identifying who it is who keeps writing this stuff.
February 22, 2014 at 11:40 am
For some reason the link to the other piece isn’t working for me, but I think I remember it. Clearly the Indepedent has some real axes to grind with (particularly Christian) religion. As you say, bishops may be “unelected” but are far more accountable than lazy, anonymous hacks.
February 22, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Play up Ye Bishops say I! Your points about how selective public opinion and newspapers are about truth is pertinent. It is about perceived interest as usual.
The owners of a majority of UK national newspapers by sales are Rothermere (French for tax), Murdoch (Californian resident), Lebedev (Russian) and the Barclay brothers tax avoiding on Brecqhou. While I doubt their incomes and power are cut by the hungry at food banks, their thralls know which side they are supposed to be on.
February 22, 2014 at 2:40 pm
Perhaps part of the problem is a perceived inconsistency in the Bishops’ responses to injustice?
On the one hand we have Bishops, quite rightly, speaking out about economic injustice and the impact of welfare reforms; on the other, we have Bishops refusing to speak out — or to speak out clearly — on gender issues, such that we still have no women bishops, LGBT people are still marginalised by the C of E and the homophobic church leaders in many parts of Africa are able to take this as tacit affirmation that they are right.
Not easy, I know, but being so selective over which areas of injustice they address can only lead to people questioning the Bishops’ moral integrity…
February 22, 2014 at 3:43 pm
This is what we want from our bishops. Gutsy argument with lazy secularists who have had it their own way for far too long. Thanks.
February 22, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Think I definatley go with Basil of Caesarea. Church and politics is nothing new and has always happened and should always happen.
“The bread in your cupboard belongs to the hungry man; the coat hanging in your closet belongs to the man who needs it; the shoes rotting in your closet belong to the man who has no shoes; the money which you put into the bank belongs to the poor. You do wrong to everyone you could help but fail to help.” – Basil of Caesarea, 330-370 A.D.
February 22, 2014 at 5:08 pm
I do hope that you will send this to the editor of the Independent.
February 22, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Or as Karl Barth and others put it in 1933 (Theological Declaration of Barmen VI):
“‘Lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.’ (Matt. 28:20.) ‘The word of God is not fettered.’ (2 Tim. 2:9.)
The Church’s commission, upon which its freedom is founded, consists in delivering the message of the free grace of God to all people in Christ’s stead, and therefore in the ministry of his own Word and work through sermon and sacrament.
We reject the false doctrine, as though the Church in human arrogance could place the Word and work of the Lord in the service of any arbitrarily chosen desires, purposes, and plans.”
From: The Church’s Confession Under Hitler by Arthur C. Cochrane. Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1962, pp. 242.
February 22, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Well said Bishop Nick. Couldn’t agree more – nonsense article. Saddens me though that stats are showing congregations in favour of welfare reforms – not too hard to find some that buck that trend (incl. my own on a North Liverpool council estate), but need more voices to speak out…
February 22, 2014 at 10:50 pm
Whenever this kind of stuff is written, critical of Christian comment on current issues, it is so blatantly obvious that they know neither the life of our founder or our foundation documents. Where do they get the idea that Jesus never said or did anything “political”?
February 22, 2014 at 11:31 pm
Speaking as a CofE parishoner, I’m both behind the need for welfare reform, and for pointing out that if in one of the richest countries in the world hundreds and thousands of people are now reliant on charity to feed themselves and their families, something isn’t quite right somewhere. The two are not incompatible. And I’m very glad to see the church, collectively in the parishes and formally through the bishops as leaders picking this baton up.
And I couldn’t agree more about the shortcomings and incosistencies of the world view and thought processes betrayed by this leader. The scary thing is that neither the writer nor the editor probably even see the problem.
So please keep up the good work, in all senses.
February 23, 2014 at 8:15 am
It seems pretty simple, to me. Bishops have as much right as anyone else to hold and express opinions on public policy, either as individuals or in this, more collective, way – as can I. The difference between me and the bishops is that nobody thinks my opinion is newsworthy. If the Independent don’t think the bishops should have a platform for their political opinions, they should just stop reporting them, not have a go at private individuals for holding opinions in the first place.
February 23, 2014 at 8:25 pm
Hooray! Yeah! Well said Sir! I stopped reading national newspapers some years ago on a matter of principle. The shameless bias of all of them is appalling. It saddened me that the Bishops chose the Daily Mirror to be their outlet when (in my view), this newspaper has proved itself to be even more unworthy than the others.
February 23, 2014 at 9:01 pm
Reblogged this on Fiona Schneider.
February 23, 2014 at 9:03 pm
Being a Christian is not simply about caring for or giving to the poor, the deprived or the disadvantaged.
In any case there are many non Christian organisations which do this at least as well as the Church. We need to encourage a system that provides hope, and training and community work, not just State handouts .
So there’s another big question: what really is the Church’s ‘USP’?’
Is it not somewhat disingenuous for Bishops who have “palaces” and fine embroidered robes and attendants, to insist the State reinstate the benefits systems which mean that hard working and poorly paid families have to pay taxes so that unemployed people who perhaps do not wish to work can stay at home? This is ultimately unsustainable anyway.
Just what are the Bishops actually advocating here,and are they not themselves guilty of a certain hypocrisy?
February 23, 2014 at 10:51 pm
williambuggins, I think you need to learn about the reality of bishops. That would be a start.
February 24, 2014 at 9:24 am
An excellent reply. Thank you so much
February 24, 2014 at 10:28 am
Nick Baines,
“williambuggins, I think you need to learn about the reality of bishops.”
Enlighten me please.
February 24, 2014 at 10:46 am
Um, I know this bloke who happens to be a bishop. He describes himself as ‘restless’, and reading this hack’s assumption-ridden twaddle, I can understand why. He of the “meddling church” appears to be driven by a disease called ‘care’ otherwise known as ’empathy’, often caught by exposure to the message and example of the Bible’s central character.
Once the bug bites, it doesn’t let go. It defines everything you do, and are. It tends to fill your heart and mind with the notion that all human beings are equally loved by the creator of Life Itself, and are equally worthy of being fed, and of having their voices heard. Worse, it inspires you to affirm and work for their benefit and betterment!
When we met, our first conversation was about a man, a rabbi as it happens, who had appeared on primetime news the morning after 9/11, proclaiming that “the trouble with the world is that we are so obsessed with the differences between us. Why can we not become obsessed with the one thing we all have in common?” We found common delight and resonance in this statement, and, no surprise, my new friend knew this man ( whose name I forget) and classed him as a friend!
Another similar problem is ‘our’ obsession with labels, such as “church” and “politics”, which become convenient barriers to hide behind, so as to justify throwing stones of judgment to further separate us, to protect our interests and position, and thereby deny our humanity-in-common. As Bob Marley once said in an interview: “The biggest man was a baby one time…”
It seems to me that whoever wrote this piece in The Independent is rather caught up in this duality of labels, has suffered an empathy bypass, and has most likely never been hungry…
February 24, 2014 at 10:49 am
I am so proud of our bishops taking a stand on this issue! Despite its anti-religious stance, I have occasionally purchased the Independent, but never again after this!! When I take a car bootful of donations from our two churches to the food bank each week, I am given to understand that delays in payment of benefits and zero-hours contracts are the most common reasons given by those holding the yellow slips and waiting to be served. Our local credit union is gearing up to help people budget once the universal credit scheme becomes universal. Eastleigh Basics Bank opened almost three years ago and is now serving three times the number of people it served in 2011 – all this in the ‘prosperous’ south of the country!!
February 24, 2014 at 10:52 am
williambuggins, bishops’s ‘palaces’ (there are very few left – most of us live in large houses) are also our offices and places of reception. Have you tried living in an office where there can be little privacy? ‘Embroidered robes’? ‘Attendants’? I employ staff who work very hard to enable me to do what I am required to do as a bishop – and they have to be paid and cared for. Your language harks back to the Middle Ages.
February 24, 2014 at 12:02 pm
Nick,
Okay, so you don’t live in a palace. Perhaps I was thinking of an Archbishop?
Is it ArchBishops who get to live in palaces? The robes though, they are worn by Bishops I think and cost quite a bit too. Then there’s the other accoutrements that go with it.
But enough of fashion and uniforms.
What exactly does a bishop do? When you said I needed to learn more about the reality of bishops, I thought you were going to hit me with some heavy moral or theological point.
There must be more to it than coping with living in an office with little privacy..
I made several points in my first post. I thought they were relevant ones.
One of my concerns is that most of what passes for clerical indignation/concern seems to centre around the Welfare State and homosexuality.
Where is the Church showing concern about for example female genital mutilation, or the exploitation of children and women in sexual exploitation or slavery? What about promoting the value of marriage, providing marriage classes for those intending to marry in Church, and how we as a Church can support parents when they are going through the tough times? Or what about the persecution of our Christian brothers and sisters in areas of conflict
Or returning to the Welfare State, how about encouraging work community programmes so that people on benefits can still keep in the habit of work whilst perhaps accessing training or education.
Do we not think that work gives the able bodied dignity, and that it is good for people out of work to give something back to the community by tidying the hedgerows, dealing with graffitti etc?
So it just seems to me that the Church treads the ‘safe’ path. The path that no one can really take offence about.
So again, what is it that bishops do to lead us on in carrying out our Lord’s commission to be both salt and light in the world?
February 24, 2014 at 10:13 pm
williambuggins, I responded in the way I did because several of your statements were bizarrely prejudiced. You probably need to contact your local bishop and ask him what he does, why he does it, and what the real situation is regarding all the ‘stuff’ that goes with it.
You also seem ignorant of the fact that bishops (and many others in the church) not only bang on about all sorts of moral issues, but also do something about them. Consider the subjects raised and addressed by bishops in the House of Lords. Look at bishops’ blogs and media contributions as well as writings and sermons and lectures. I don’t see us treading a ‘safe’ path anywhere. And if I was, I certainly wouldn’t be wasting my time writing this blog.
I think you should check this out with your local bishop, wherever that might be.
February 24, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Just to pick up one point, williambuggins, when I married my wife our vicar at the time lead us in a series of classes on the Biblical meaning behind marriage as well as some practical considerations to a long and happy life together. I can’t (obviously) say whether this is common practice. And our current vicar would, I am sure, be happy to provide support in our lives, should we need it. Pastoral care is only one of the many ways a caring church community looks after each other.
February 27, 2014 at 7:38 am
[…] real problem with this article and so many others that have been accusing the bishops of being too left-wing and out of touch with both their […]
March 1, 2014 at 12:34 pm
[…] cannot do justice to the arguments Rowan develops. I do wonder if the leader writers of the Independent newspaper (as well as others) have read these texts and formed any response to the arguments […]
March 1, 2014 at 8:12 pm
At least the Independent published over two days a good number of very good responses to what was a shoddily written editorial, making a number of the points you have made nick.
March 7, 2014 at 1:17 pm
[…] in his Internet blog, ‘Musings of a restless bishop’, to The Independent’s 21st February editorial, headlined, “Britain’s poorest are suffering […]